HULK vs SUPERMAN Who is stronger? - Page 210

dnno1 · 12-05-2008, 04:16 PM

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Okay from the top. The reason I bring up the Hulk's healing factor is because of the post JoJo used as [examples], they don't hold water. Next Superman holding a black hole in his hand. A great example of his power, but I think it was [Dnno] that said there [was] no ripple because, "Once he closed his hands around the black hole generator he shut off the interaction between the Earth and the device. That would have explained why the ground beneath him wasn't ripped up." The reason there are no ripples is because the black hole is [separated] from everything else by Superman's forcefield. It's the only answer that makes sense. The ground, of building can't be as strong as Superman. How many times have he flown through wall, rock, etc.

He still moved a mass greater than the earth when he reeled it in. Let's assume that he grabbed it and moved it 1 foot in 1 second (ie. he accelerated it at 1 ft. per second squared). That would mean that the force that he placed on the object was about 620 sextillion tonns. That's a lot.

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Next The pic of the Hulk and Superman with Spidey in the background. The panel before it showed Superman pull a nano-like device from his ear, placed there by Lex Luthor. Anyone who has read a Hulk story will tell you, once the [protagonist] has been removed the Hulk calms and changes back to Banner. The [protagonist] in this story being the nano device. Don't post half stories. I have an extensive comic collection.

If you read it then you should know that hulk called Superman stupid and that he should smash him anyway, but he was tired. That's what he said. Superman tired out the hulk.

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Next the pic of the Sentry. In a recent Marvel book. Avengers Invaders The Sentry is fighting the original Human Torch and he states, "I know you have the power of a thousand suns at your control." So it's Marvels character, and that is their line on him. I didn't make it up. The fight of Superman and Zodd is cool, but if collateral damage equal strength then check out the Hulk versus the West Coast Avengers. (The book number slips my mind at the [moment])

The Origin of Sentry

This is where I got my info from (and Superman could still take him). Here is another refernece:

Should I assume that he has been since de-powered?

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Oh and the Foom [statement] was to show how much damage the Hulk can take and not be fazed by it, so Wonder Woman swinging Foom by his tail doesn't say his [fiery] breath isn't as damaging as described. Just that she is strong enough to throw him around.

That picture was to illustrate that even Wonder Woman (and for that matter Aquaman) could take Fin-Fang-Foom. This character is inconsequential.

Jojo29 · 12-05-2008, 04:47 PM

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Okay from the top. The reason I bring up the Hulk's healing factor is because of the post JoJo used as examlples, they don't hold water.

They sure do, but healing factor will never make up for anything, it helps Hulk endure damage, but it is NOT so powerful as to recover from decapitation, thats just stupid, and again, if you bring this up, then the debate is over as we will just pull out the "Superman is INVULNERABLE TO PHYSICAL DAMAGE" card, and again Hulk loses as he is nothing but physical damage.

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And once again the reason the healing factor came up was also this post by JoJo, "Let's say Hulk takes the first swing. Superman gets knocked back from California, to New York and is like "WTF!!???" Guess what he is going to do next? Thats right swing at full force, and since Hulk swung first, it wasn't at his potentially stronger than superman's strength, simply because superman hasn't displayed any strength to overcome, but guess what? Too late, Superman swings at FULL force, and Hulk dies."

It doesn't matter on BOTH ends. I was trying to be fair to the Hulk. I believe Hulk's strength to be powerful enough to at least be able to knock superman around, but do you so blindly believe a healing factor will keep him from being decapitated? Superman is MORE than powerful enough to do so much damage to the Hulk his healing factor would be meaningless.

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Next the strength contest, where is it written that the Hulk would have to lift said weight first? If he does your argument is good to a degree. Enough to win the debate, but if Superman goes first, he loses.

No, if Superman goes first, he wins anyways, just not as quick. You keep forgetting that hulk has to see/feel the weight FIRST before getting MAD ENOUGH to lift it, on top of that SUPERMAN'S BASE POWER is STRONGER than Hulks. So this IS the scenario is Superman goes first. They keep lifting x amounts of weight. Been no sweat so far. Then after hours/maybe days of Hulk matching Superman's weight, Superman lifts x amount weight, the x amount where Hulk's base power ends. In a strength lifting competitions, i believe you get a few seconds/tries in before they "judge" you can't lift said weight. It is at this point i believe Hulk loses as he simply will not be able to lift it outright. He will try the first time,get mad, but will be vastly surprised that he can't lift it. Yes, the next try he can, again, POTENTIALLY lift this weight out of sheer anger, BUT in a competition, he already lost.

And see, he would keep 'struggling' on as his base power is and will always be weaker than Superman's and he will reach this point eventually.

Again though, you still haven't found any greater example of Hulk lifting more than a black hole....

long1175 · 12-07-2008, 11:11 AM

Argggggggggggggggggggh Who Is Stronger???????????????

dnno1 · 12-07-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by long1175

Argggggggggggggggggggh Who Is Stronger???????????????

Superman!

LocalBoy · 12-07-2008, 06:11 PM

Let. This. Thread. Die!!!

ComicFan · 12-07-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Son Of Krypton

Let. This. Thread. Die!!!

I think its about time

axlrose08 · 12-09-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by long1175

Argggggggggggggggggggh Who Is Stronger???????????????

Hulk ^^

Villain · 12-09-2008, 06:24 PM

As much as I like the Mighty Superman...

Hulk is stronger and gets even stronger. Hulk would dust Superman off in a fight. The fight between Superman and Hulk would go basically like the fight between Hulk and Thing. At first they may be near the same strength, but in the end Hulk would end up dominating him. I wish people would stop referencing the Marvel vs DC thing btw, due to the fact that the person who one in each of those bouts was based purely on votes which makes it more of a popularity contest than an actual show as to who was actually better.

Hulk's healing is a major factor due to the fact that combined with his rage=strength formula, it would mean he does not and would not ever fatigue where Superman does clearly get fatigued and does in fact strain and show signs of injury.

It is also a factor due to the fact that if they were face to face with no surprise attack, there would be nothing Superman could do to kill Hulk instantly and as a result he would heal and he would get stronger while Supes would use up a decent amount of strength doing whatever major attack he had attempted in order to try to end the fight quickly.

Doomsday would have killed Superman and still been walking around if Superman had not attacked his bone extensions (cheesy) thus this would mean that Doomsday would have been stronger the Superman as he was clearly going to prevail in that battle.

Hyperion · 12-09-2008, 07:40 PM

*SIGH*

Jojo29 · 12-09-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Villain

As much as I like the Mighty Superman...

Hulk is stronger and gets even stronger. Hulk would dust Superman off in a fight. The fight between Superman and Hulk would go basically like the fight between Hulk and Thing. At first they may be near the same strength, but in the end Hulk would end up dominating him. I wish people would stop referencing the Marvel vs DC thing btw, due to the fact that the person who one in each of those bouts was based purely on votes which makes it more of a popularity contest than an actual show as to who was actually better.

Hulk's healing is a major factor due to the fact that combined with his rage=strength formula, it would mean he does not and would not ever fatigue where Superman does clearly get fatigued and does in fact strain and show signs of injury.

It is also a factor due to the fact that if they were face to face with no surprise attack, there would be nothing Superman could do to kill Hulk instantly and as a result he would heal and he would get stronger while Supes would use up a decent amount of strength doing whatever major attack he had attempted in order to try to end the fight quickly.

Doomsday would have killed Superman and still been walking around if Superman had not attacked his bone extensions (cheesy) thus this would mean that Doomsday would have been stronger the Superman as he was clearly going to prevail in that battle.

ROFL...ok back to seriousness. Here is this thread summed up for you. But first this: If you haven't read the entire thread, i suggest you start from pages 160 and up. Then when you have caught up and realized how wrong you are on the healing factor and strength, you will have to produce facts, which means actual events and actual links like we have all done here on both sides of the fence. So back to the summary and where this thread was ended:

Until you can PROVE that Hulk can lift more than a black hole ( you have to read it, somewhere between pages 160-whatever page we are on) then Superman is the stronger character. PERIOD.

And just to let you know, no one has been able to retort this

Good luck and again to all those who contributed with facts/proof/pictures and just plain silliness, thanks, this has not only been a crazy thread, it also is one of the most informative, for BOTH Hulk fans AND Superman fans, i always point people to this thread now if when they don't believe me about Maestro or Zombie Hulk, Superman Prime, Silverage Superman etc... Great job from all sides

> Hulk

B · 12-09-2008, 09:49 PM

Superman has been proven stronger(even tho there was never any doubt) can this thread be locked up with the key tossed away or else burned to the ground & I'll even donate a match to start the burning

Lord Humungus · 12-09-2008, 11:24 PM

This thread, like Hulks anger to infinity power, has NO LIMIT!!!!

No matter how long other threads are, this thread is POTENTIALLY longer!!! Delete all but the first page of this thread and it will STILL be able to heal and regenerate to full length.

axlrose08 · 12-10-2008, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Humungus

This thread, like Hulks anger to infinity power, has NO LIMIT!!!!

No matter how long other threads are, this thread is POTENTIALLY longer!!! Delete all but the first page of this thread and it will STILL be able to heal and regenerate to full length.

Lol this thread is long ass $h!+

haha and I'll be finding more info to prove Hulk is stronger ^-^

Hyperion · 12-10-2008, 08:28 PM

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Lol this thread is long ass $h!+

haha and I'll be finding more info to prove Hulk is stronger ^-^

Which will be stepped on and burried in the snow by our guys etc etc... ad infinitum.

Give it up mate.

Maybe we should jump into a "Marvel fanboy world" site and create 350 Hulk vs <random DC character> and claim that they're ALL stronger than THe Hulk and the Hulk sucks brick etc... ?

axlrose08 · 12-11-2008, 04:41 AM

lol I welcome debate

This thread is fun, and i dont see why it should close. Unless we get to the point where nothing more is said, like if we run out of info/arguments

I've learnt so much about supes.

nice to see ya using the *fanboy* phrase